Posted by: notdeaddinosaur | March 8, 2013

I Hate Being Right

Comment from my flash fiction post, GUN LAWS:

You called it.

with a link to this:

A city in Georgia is considering a proposal as soon as next month that requires every homeowner to own a gun. Citing limited police resources and slow response time, Nelson City Councilman Duane Cronic said armed residents would deter crime instead:

“When he’s not here we rely on county sheriffs–however it takes a while for them to get here,” said Nelson City Councilman Duane Cronic. [..]

“It’s a deterrent ordinance,” Cronic said. “It tells the potential intruder you better think twice.”

Another city, Kennesaw, Georgia, already has a mandatory gun ownership law, although it is not enforced. And outside of Georgia, a Milwaukee, Wisconsin sheriff recently urged residents to “get in the game” with a gun for emergencies, rather than call 911.

Cronic and others tend to argue that more guns mean less crime, based on scant evidence from two methodologically flawed studies. But academic consensus finds the opposite to be true: A survey by researchers at the Harvard University School of Public Health makes a strong case for the idea that more people die from gun homicides in areas with higher rates of gun ownership.

(HT: Buzzfeed)

All I got wrong was the state.

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Responses

  1. Sounds like the kind of place my kind of folks would want to move to, and your kind of people would flee.

    I call that a win-win.

  2. Evidence:
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/
    You should try it sometime.
    Oh wait: you don’t care about facts. You’re just afraid the government is going to take your guns. That’s about as realistic a fear as worrying about aliens coming down with anal probes.

  3. The Kennesaw mandatory ownership law is entirely symbolic, deliberately written to be unenforceable–if you have a religious, moral, legal or economic objection to owning a gun you are exempt.

    I glanced at some of the Harvard studies on guns. The first “Harvard Gun Study” I found on Google said that gun control was counterproductive, but I doubt that’s the one you are talking about. Farther down were a bunch of studies saying how guns are bad. However reading the summaries, it appeared that few of these studies made any attempt to separate the law abiding from criminals, and a large number were entirely about illegally possessed guns. This seems to be really common with studies that find guns are bad. It also means that they aren’t necessarily in disagreement with the first study.

    I’ve done my own studies, running my own computerized correlation analysis using FBI data for murder and violent crime, and Brady Campaign scores for state gun control laws. If the Brady Campaign is correct, there should be a significant correlation between their preferred laws and violence rates. Instead I found a slight negative correlation, well below statistical significance.


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